Listening in on Conversations

Show posters lined the walls where we walked in. Crew in black t-shirts ushered us to our seats. There was a hush and 1a.m. Production's brand new show for Christmas 2007, 'Conversations with Cathryn' began.

'Conversations with Cathryn' with the episode themed 'The Gift' was conceived as a multimedia talk show with live studio recording, which allowed audiences to dive into the highs and lows of 3 real life stories.
We've never been to a live studio recording and this was as close to the real thing as we could get. They had the whole works - camera crew, lights, stage manager, even the 'Silence' 'Applause' and 'On Air' light boxes – which got the audiences following along heartily.

Cathryn Loh was the host and she kept the conversation lively both on stage with her guests as well as with the audience. Her first guest was Winifred Heron, who shared her story of losing a baby through a miscarriage and the journey of adopting her son, Matthew. She thought she was cursed. She was never going to be a mother when Matthew came out blue. Yet another baby was going to die in her hands. What does one do when there is nothing else one can do? One can only embrace the gift of love from the Heavenly Father and let Him breathe life into dying dreams.
The next invited guest was Dawson Sim who grew up with a father who gambled his wages away. It came to a point that Dawson and family moved out. For the next 10 years, Dawson never spoke to his Dad. But Dawson began to experience the gift of peace that changed his life tremendously when he came down to KL to study. He received Jesus as His Saviour, encountered Him in a powerful way and forgiveness for his Dad flooded his heart. He then made the first move to send his Dad a Father's Day card, and that began to change everything.

The last guest Cathryn chatted with was Kelvin Lim who suffered from depression for 7 long years. He openly talked about his divorce and the subsequent climb out of the dark pit. By believing and activating God's promises in his life, he now walks free, without medication. He found the gift of hope that propels him into greater dreams.
Let these 3 real life stories inspire you all over again as you explore this site. Or relive them with our exclusive ‘Conversations with Cathryn – The Gift’ DVD at only RM20. Place an order during our weekend services for yourself or for some one who needs to see the gift of God at work in real lives.

Interview 1: Winifred, Tim & Matthew Prescott Heron

After her first miscarriage, Wini was comforted by God through a vision of her baby dancing in heaven. She knew immediately that she would hold her baby when she goes to heaven.A difficult season of barrenness followed. Wini wept whenever she heard of others getting pregnant. She felt that God had singled her out.

When there was an open door for them to adopt a baby, they were overjoyed.
But eight months into the pregnancy, the mother of their baby developed hypertension complications. During delivery, the baby was detached from the placenta. The baby came out blue and limp, neither crying nor moving.

Risks of death or severe brain damage were high. There was nothing Wini could do except singing the song about God being the Savior… He can move the mountain and He is mighty to save! Moments later, the baby started to cry and breathe. The doctor was dumbfounded as he revealed a perfect APGAR score for the baby.

Today, Matthew Prescott Heron is a healthy 5-month old baby. Their application for custody of Matthew has been approved with minimal hassle. The greatest gift for Wini and Tim is to discover God’s amazing love through it all.  

Wini在第一次流产之后，神藉着一项她的婴儿在天堂跳舞的异象来安慰她。她马上知道将来回天家后她将可以牵着她婴儿的手。
随着而来的是一段不妊的时期。每次Wini听到别人怀孕时她都忍不住哭泣。她觉得神漠视她。

当神应允他们领养一位婴儿时，他们高兴极了。但是怀孕八个月之后，孩子的妈妈产生一系列的高血压的复杂状况。
生产时，婴儿从妈妈的胎盘脱落。生出来的婴儿肤色转蓝以及脆弱，不哭也不动。

死亡和严重脑受损害的风险都非常高。除了歌颂“  神是救赎主。。。他可以移山和他可以拯救 ”之外，Wini束手无策。
过了一会儿，那婴儿开始哭泣和呼吸。 当看到一个完善的婴儿“APGAR“健康报告时，医生也发楞无言了。

今天，Matthew Prescott Heron 已是一位五个月大而健康的小孩。他们为Matthew申请的监护权已轻易的被批准。Wini 和Tim从神领受最棒的礼物就是发现神始终奇妙的爱。

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Interview 2: Dawson Sim

Growing up, Dawson had always not been able to relate with his father. He was afraid of him, but eventually, that fear became hatred and a rift grew between them. Since coming to Kuala Lumpur, Dawson had never made any effort to contact his father.

In 2004, Dawson became a Christian and was invited to attend Victory Weekend.
During one of the worship time, his father suddenly came to his mind.
Dawson knew he needed to forgive his father and let go of the years of hatred and bitterness. He wept uncontrollably and received prayers.

After that experience at Victory Weekend, Dawson decided to send his father a Father’s Day card. To his surprise, he received a birthday card from his father the following week, with a letter attached. His father had written to ask for forgiveness. Dawson was so moved that he called his father – after a 10-year silence. They spoke at length that day and consistently after that.

Last Chinese New Year, Dawson finally met up with his father. While he looked aged significantly, he remained pretty much the same.
But now, with the new found peace, Dawson felt empowered to love his father.
Filled with compassion, Dawson is determined to help and care for his father. Dawson’s ultimate gift would be to see his entire family reconciled to his father.

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Interview 3: Kelvin Lim

After completing an online questionnaire for depression, Kelvin was advised to visit a psychiatrist for further assessment. He was diagnosed to suffer from chronic depression by the psychiatrist. This condition was triggered by his divorce and had prevailed for the past 7 years.

When his wife left him for another man, Kelvin struggled with 2 major questions - was he good enough as a husband and how was he going to be a good father to his then 2-year old daughter.

In his depression, Kelvin had no motivation to wake up or even go through the day. He did not care if he lost his job, or depleted his finances. His business, relationships with his daughter and others were greatly affected.

Kelvin didn’t want a life of dependency on anti-depressant. He decided to take a different journey towards recovery. Looking within the Bible, he found Isaiah 61:1-2. Kelvin believed wholeheartedly that God will heal him and give him a favorable year. This faith activated the power of God’s word and promises.

Progressively, Kelvin’s condition began to improve. His mind became clear and he felt free to live life again. He now has hope to fulfill his many God-given dreams.
In less than 2 years, Kelvin wrote many songs and produced 2 albums.

完成第一张直线抑郁症调查表之后，Kelvin被劝去寻求精神科医生的评定。精神科医生诊断他患上慢性抑郁症。他的离婚引发出这种状况也存在了七年。

当她妻子为了第二个男人离开他时，Kelvin为了两项重大的问题而挣扎-他是否是一位称职的丈夫和他如何成为他那当时才两岁的女儿的好父亲。
患上抑郁症后，Kelvin更本不想起身过日子。他不再在意他是否失业或经济消耗。他的生意，与女儿的关系和其他都受影响。

Kelvin不想依靠抗抑郁症药物维持生命。他决定走一段不一样的路途来康复。看着圣经，他找到以赛亚书61∶1 ，2 节，Kelvin满心 相信神会医治他和赐给他肯定的岁月。这信心激起神的话语和应许的能力。

接着，Kelvin的情况开始有进展。他的心智恢复和得着释放再活下去。他现在对实现神给他的梦想充满希望。

在两年以内， Kelvin写下许多歌曲而且出了两张唱片。

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Conversation With Cathryn

Senior Pastor: Timothy Loh	Executive Producers: Cathryn Loh Kelvin Lim	Producers: Kareem Koh Carman Chan	Director: Kareem Koh
Assistant Producers: Sharon Lim Katherine Law	Host: Cathryn Loh	Guests: Winifred Heron Tim Heron Matthew Prescott Heron Dawson Sim Kelvin Lim Sharon Lim	Supporting Cast: Floor Manager: Carman Chan Camera Crew 1: Benjamin Lin Camera Crew 2 : Jinelle Adams Stage Hand: Ruth Niang Make-up Artist: Yong Hui Shurn
Dancers: Kong Nai Lin Lee Yean Ching Doreen Lim	Band (1a.m.): Neil Batiancila Tan Tze Jian Cuzario David Lisa Leong Deborah Gan	Video Segment Cast: Young Dawson: Joshua Ng Father in Park: Clement Loke Kid 1: Ernest Loke Kid 2: Daniel Ng Dawson's Father: Arthur Wong Gambler 1: Norman Fong Gambler 2 : Joey Yeoh Gambler 3 : Vincent Puah Teenage Dawson: Wong Wee Ming Dawson's Mother: Loretta Chin	Script: Yap Mei Mei Cathryn Loh Elaine Ong Patience Kachipare Chow Nian Yee Jenny Ng
Translation: Joseph Gan Cathy Lau Yeo Bee Sean	Live Sound: Kevin Lau Chik Ian Calvin Ng Lau Jor Han	Lighting: Shaun Perumal Nicolas Lim	Live Video: Elaine Ong Chua Soon Min Ivan Wong Jeyna Lim Daniel Krishnan
Video Segment Production Crew: Camera : Elaine Ong Camera Assistants : Wong Wee Ming Norman Fong Editors: Elaine Ong. Kareem Koh Visual Effects : Daniel Krishnan Sound Recordist: Kevin Lau Post production Voiceover: Foo I-Wei Original Music / Score: Deborah Gan	Projection: Annie Wong	Stage Crew: Charlene Liang Joseph Sendal Adrian Sia Vincent Chong Garrett Wong Aaron Gan Chen Boon Feng	Event Photographers: Benjamin Foong Sheri Adelakun Kevin Kaan
Production Designers: Bernard Chia Siew Se Wei	Make-up Artists: Lisa Leong Patience Kachipare Elaine Tan Peggy Ng	Hair: Sam Goh	Art Department: Wong Wee Ming Tew Sin Cheow Nicolas Lim Calvin Ng Judy Lee Esther Lee Nickkisha Farrell Shanique May Sheri Adelakun Doreen Lim Lee Yean Ching Samson Lim Jeyna Lim Hannsen Lim Joshua Ng Chik Ian Jessica Chan
Set Builders: Charles Teo Norman Fong Tew Sin Cheow Li Cheng Seong	Electrician: Tang Teck Tung	Poster Talents: Caroll, Weather: Girl Renny Tan Extreme Sports: Adrian Lee, Elvin Jeevaraj Ballet Superstar: Charles Teo, Crystal Lim, Aaron Lam, Patience Kachipare, Daniel Krishnan, Kevin Kaan, Carolyn Lee, Rachel Chan Desperate Husbands: Anthony Oseso, Kevin Johnson Kevin Lau, Mark Ng News @ 8: Chan Mei Fung	Poster Photoraphy: Benjamin Foong
Desktop Publishing: Sharon Lim	Additional Testimonies: James Tan Jocelyn Tan Christine Loh Lisa Leong Angelina Ho	Website: Ho Seng Wai	Ushers: Ho Su Leen Yeo Bee Sean Charles Teo Jane Shoo Esther Lee Jocelyn Tan Crystal Lim Nancy Kaan Foo Siang Chin Chiong Wen Hao Marcus van Geyzel Michelle Tan Christopher Tan Matthew Chang Mervyn Yap Alex Teoh Ng Jia Huey Anthony Lau Cindy Chin
Logistics: Sunny Mathews Sarah Mathews
Special Thanks: Kevin Lau, Anne Lim, Mark Ng, Michael Lee, Michelle Tan, Jit & Karen Chan, Steven Teoh, Patt Ah Thim And all the families and friends that have contributed directly or indirectly to the success of this production. We could not have done it without your prayers and support! Sponsor: Lian Fatt Furniture Manufacturing Co. “The Greatest Gift” Written by Kelvin Lim and Neil Batiancila and performed by 1a.m. © 2007 One Accord Sdn. Bhd. Conversations with Cathryn is produced by 1a.m. and Eaglepoint Covenant Fellowship. All rights reserved.